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Google Tango is dead. Welcome, ARCore!5326

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Today, Google unveiled ARCore, a lightweight replacement for Tango that competes head on with Apple's forthcoming ARKit.

This marks the beginning of the end of Google's experiment with 3D Mesh capture. With just two phones supporting Tango.

A good question is, what is best Matterport up to? As one of the key players in supporting Tango with the Spaces app, are they getting ready for a new ARCore app? Does this relate to their recent investment capital, or is that just a coincidence?

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"Forget Project Tango, ARCore covers most AR use cases with no special hardware required."

"Google is again doing a bit of internal product competition with Tango and ARCore. Google is best thought of as a group of individual product divisions rather than a unified company, and it's the teams behind these products that tell the biggest story about where these two projects are headed. Project Tango was cooked up by Google's ATAP group, a small skunkworks group that doesn't have a ton of resources. ARCore is a collaboration between the Android Team and the VR group, two groups with a ton of resources."

"The key difference between ARCore and a sensor-loaded Tango device is that you're not getting depth sensing. Tango could actually see the world in 3D by sending out a blast of IR light and measuring the return time using a time-of-flight camera. Depth sensing in Tango led to my favorite Tango app: Matterport Scenes, which was basically a 3D scanner app. You could wave a Tango phone around a room or object and quickly get a (low-resolution) 3D, color model of it. While that was really amazing, the vast majority of Tango apps just wanted to use the "place stuff on a flat surface" feature, which doesn't need the depth sensor and will work just fine on ARCore."

"ARCore will also have the benefit of what's essentially a "multiplayer mode," where data can be synced across devices thanks to the VR Group's "VPS" (Visual Positioning System). This is narrowing your location down with GPS and then having the phone's AR capabilities recognize where you are in a room, a kind of "indoor GPS." ARCore users in the same room can then share items in an environment, and one person's object manipulations could be seen by the other device."
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Waiting for the Primesense powered iPhone 8 on 12 September. Hopefully the port of MP Scenes will not be far behind.
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Well there is clearly a market for low-cost, mass-market depth sensing devices so someone's going to do them. Maybe it could be Matterport themselves, then. Having Qualcomm and Ericsson on board would be helpful with the hardware strategy.
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mori private msg quote post Address this user
Tango is not dead in my opinion. Think of what happened with glasses.
It will just take 3-4 years to be really ready for enterprise stuff and then not for the mass market.
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Metroplex360 private msg quote post Address this user
@mori You may have wanted to elaborate a bit about Google Glasses to save myself (and maybe others) from Googling it.

It seems that Google Glasses died, some enterprises found interesting uses for them in the workplace, and now 'X' (fmr: Google X, subsidiary of Alphabet, fmr Google) is working with the Enterprise on providing this as a niche tool.

I would still maintain that Google Glass is dead and would predict that Tango would only live on as a spin-off seperate to Google -if- a use-case were found and a separate company cared to support it. The focus with ARKit and ARCore seems to be avoiding depth sensing and IR tracking in favor of technologies that can work with existing devices.

I am still calling Tango dead. Google is moving on.
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Don Reisinger
Jul 18, 2017

Alphabet has given its ill-fated Google Glass wearables another life.
The company on Tuesday announced Google Glass Enterprise Edition. The wearables, which look somewhat similar to the original models, come with high-end cameras, built-in batteries, and Wi-Fi support. They're designed to sit over a person's eyes, but can also be used with prescription glasses and goggles, according to a report from Wired, which announced the news.

Maybe this is still a "niche tool" as every pro product, but I guess also the ROI is good. Otherwise they would not do it. Apple´s world works well with "niche smartphones".
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And no doubt avoiding depth sensing and IR tracking on existing devices is a big step and will work for most.
If you need better results you will buy pro products.

Nevertheless I still see options for the Tango technology, but the "project" will fade in the background as stated and the tech from it will be used in other products & projects.

Finally - if you like to call this dead, then you are right.
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Originally Posted by Metroplex360
I am still calling Tango dead. Google is moving on.

Interesting times! It's probably not the cleverest time to buy an Asus ZenFone AR but Manuel Clément's demos have... seriously considering acquiring one to cater for scenarios where portability is essential.
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