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20 Questions Live: iGuide versus Matterport3982

iGuide Kevin_iGuide private msg quote post Address this user
Like you @DanSmigrod, there were a number of professional photographers at the show and really the best ones attend these shows. The ones who want to know what is happening in their market and their clients.

We were there looking for Pro's to join our network plus the added benefit of collecting leads for our Pro's.

@DanSmigrod, we enjoyed your company for a good part of the show, along with a number of our Pro's who were enjoying bringing their clients over to ask us questions and find out more. I saw it as a hugely successful opportunity for us to engage with our clients and yours.
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WGAN Forum Founder DanSmigrod private msg quote post Address this user
@Kevin_iGuide

While Matterport is still relatively new, there are markets that already seem oversaturated with Matterport Pros based on pricing that Pros are charging. (More supply than demand.)

What is the Planitar business strategy about the number of iGuide Camera Systems that it will sell in a market.

Dan
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iGuide Kevin_iGuide private msg quote post Address this user
We have a magic number of cameras that we believe are required to service the market we want to cover. Our hope is that our Pro's will continue to grow and add cameras to their team to meet the demands.
When a Pro has reached their capacity and not want to grow any further, we will add additional Pro's; but the addition will be complimentary not predatory.
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WGAN Forum Founder DanSmigrod private msg quote post Address this user
@Kevin_iGuide

It seems like the DNA of Planitar is to stay focused on successful, professional photographers by not selling camera to real estate agents and limiting the sale of iGuide Camera Systems by market.

Anything to add about your business approach?

Dan
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iGuide Kevin_iGuide private msg quote post Address this user
Not much Dan. We are delighted by the success our teams are having in their markets and want to continue moving forward with them and others who are joining our team.

We are just getting started with many, exciting new developments to come.
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WGAN Forum Founder DanSmigrod private msg quote post Address this user
@Kevin_iGuide

Wednesday (1 March 2017), Matterport announced that they officially lowered the price of its camera to $3,600 from $4,500 (though it has been discounting since August 2016 between $600 and $900).

How does iGuide Camera System compare on pricing?

1. Camera?
2. Processing and hosting?
3. Floor plans?

Dan
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iGuide Kevin_iGuide private msg quote post Address this user
iGuide System continues to sell for $4,500 USD.
We run a lean manufacture and ship system that allows us to be selective on where the systems go.

Matterport may have reduced the camera cost but they will have to go much lower for the economics to equate to the value of iGuide.
Again, we are looking for Professional clients who are concerned with speed, efficiency and product. The $900 discount will not matter to much when you look at the potential output variances for Pro's.
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WGAN Forum Founder DanSmigrod private msg quote post Address this user
@Kevin_iGuide

You mentioned earlier that a Pro can shoot more iGuide tours per day than with Matterport. Is that an example of why the Camera cost more?

And, what about Processing and hosting? If a Pro shoots 250 iGuide tours a year how does that compare to Matterport?

Dan
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iGuide Kevin_iGuide private msg quote post Address this user
Our camera costs more because we are smaller and are producing them in small batches, so we cannot leverage much purchasing power when it comes to parts. We reduced our cost to compete with Matterport's initial $4,500.
We can not match again but now that we have a solid year of data from our Operators, we don't believe we have to match the initial hardware cost because we are able to justify our cost in another way; for our pro's.

We are all aware of the seasonality of the business and in most North American markets the peak season is double or triple the volume of business from the slow season.

Our iGuide Pro's are often churning out 7 - 9 tours per day during the peak season. (long days but make hay...)
That number would likely drop to 2 per day in the slow season.
If the production capacity of their camera is only 2 per day, that would mean they need 4/5 cameras and 4/5 operators per day in the busy season.

Those additional cameras would be sitting for part of the year, earning nothing. $900 would seem like nothing when you potentially have $15,000 of equipment sitting on the shelf in November, December, January and February depreciating.

We are focused on these economics when Pro's decide what system to buy.
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WGAN Forum Founder DanSmigrod private msg quote post Address this user

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@Kevin_iGuide

So, I imagine that you are interested in successful, super-busy Pros that have a need to crank out multiple tours in a day. Seems like a busy Matterport Pro that is considering adding multiple cameras could do the math and see that they can get more done with fewer cameras.

Also ...

I should mention that when a Pro buys the iGuide Camera System before 30 March 2017, they receive these benefits from the we Get Around Network:

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What questions have I not asked you that you want to ask and answer?

Dan


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iGuide Kevin_iGuide private msg quote post Address this user
May I pose a question to our audience?
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WGAN Forum Founder DanSmigrod private msg quote post Address this user
Sure
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iGuide Kevin_iGuide private msg quote post Address this user
We got involved in the We Get Around Network, not just because we all really like you Dan.

We got involved because we believe you've got a large, quiet audience that absorbs information, more than shares it.

Like the missions to Mars, we would like to know if anyone is out there and if anyone is listening?
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WGAN Forum Founder DanSmigrod private msg quote post Address this user
@Kevin_iGuide

That's a great question and a great opportunity for Members of the We Get Around Network to ask a question.

I know that we have been chatting away for three hours, so I could imagine that you are ready for a break, but will be monitoring this discussion for questions from Members.

Kevin, thank you again for joining us for 20 Questions Live in the We Get Around Network Forum.

@Integratedman did you have a question for @Kevin_iGuide ...

Anyone else?

Best,

Dan
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iGuide Kevin_iGuide private msg quote post Address this user
I may take a break now Dan but will certainly check back in to answer any questions that come up.

Otherwise people can reach out to our team via both our websites:
www.planitar.com
www.goiguide.com

Thank you again for your support Dan.

Good night.
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WGAN Forum Founder DanSmigrod private msg quote post Address this user
@Kevin_iGuide

And, I will add these two websites that we created for Matterport Pros ... (this one and this one).

Okay, earth to mars. over. Times for Pros to chime in with questions ....

Best,

Dan
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@kevin_iguide

Please discuss the use of your own version of Magic Lantern in the DSLR of your platform.

How does this affect the OEM warranty and will you replace a bricked camera at anytime during ownership?
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TrustedPhotoDC private msg quote post Address this user
@Kevin_iguide

This URL http://www.goiguide.com/iguidebusiness

you write "Improve Google search ranking"

Can you please explain what you mean by this.

As a long time Google Trusted Phototogher, making these statements was strictly forbidden by Google. Since the page is referencing adding photospheres to a business listing with Street View, it appears that this is when you are trying to convey. Do you mean something else?
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walk360 private msg quote post Address this user
what about price difference for the business plans?
How much does it cost to upload each model?
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iGuide Alex_iGuide private msg quote post Address this user
@TrustedPhotoDC iGuide camera includes Canon DSLR (currently EOS T5) in the completely unmodified form, thus the original 1-year warranty on Canon body is intact. We do not use any custom firmware for Canon and all camera control from our system controller is done using the API officially exposed by Canon. The iGuide camera also has a 1-year warranty on parts and labor, where all broken parts will be replaced at no cost, provided the damage was not due to improper handling (e.g. dropping the camera). Beyond the first year we will charge for parts (e.g. DSLR body), labor, and shipping to fix any issues with the camera, just like any other camera manufacturer.

I will let Kevin answer your other question.
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TrustedPhotoDC private msg quote post Address this user
@alex_iguide my bad, I was thinking about Real Vision, they use a ML fork.

Good to clarify and thank you for the warranty information.
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Metroplex360 private msg quote post Address this user
@Kevin_iGuide iGuide has an 'always-on' 2D laser scanner that creates the floorplans that iGuide is famous for. Would you mind walking us through how this works for an iGuide Operator and how the floorplan is visualized as it is built?
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iGuide Chris_iGuide private msg quote post Address this user
@Metroplex360 I can answer that.

While shooting you are presented with images and measurement data in real time on your smart device. This allows you to see what your images look like in HDR and see the data as you gather it. Automatic mapping mode can be used to align the data for you or the data can be moved and rotated manually to assemble the floorplan. Here are two workflow examples:

Automatic mode

1. Use mapping mode and walk through the house to build a map of the entire property (2-15min depending on house size and complexity)

2. Create a panorama in every space and let the camera align the rooms for you (about 1 minute per panorama)

Here is video that shows that process


Manual Mode

1. Create a panorama in every space.

2. Between panoramas align the data manually by moving and rotating rooms into place in real time on your smart device. It's a bit like putting together pieces of a puzzle.

I prefer to align the data manually because it can be a little bit faster and it's more fun. The data and images can all be edited later in the post processing software so the main goal for the operator is to confirm that enough data has been gathered to draw a floorplan and visually depict the space.

The process can also be non-linear which means you can shoot panoramas and gather data in any order you like. This is extremely useful in the real world where you may be interrupted by agents, homeowners, pets, etc. The most common example would be when the house is not ready when you show up to shoot it. To work around this you can measure and create your panoramas in whatever rooms are ready and go back to rooms as they become available.
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leonvanzweel private msg quote post Address this user
When can we expect the system to be available in the UK?
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iGuide Kevin_iGuide private msg quote post Address this user
@walk360 I would ask you to reach out to our Sales team by [private message me for the sales email] for a copy of our iGuide Pro Information Package for pricing and system details.
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WGAN Forum Founder DanSmigrod private msg quote post Address this user
Hi All,

Other questions for @Kevin_iGuide ...?

Dan
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WGAN Forum Founder DanSmigrod private msg quote post Address this user
Moving this to the top of the Forum ...
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