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If you are shooting Zillow Tours, would this be a great Add On?

Hi All,

If you are shooting Zillow Tours, would this be a great Add On?

The Momenzo smartphone app makes it super-easy to shoot/edit/publish residential real estate videos. (Examples)

I could still imagine real estate photographers particularly those that shoot a ton of Zillow Tours - adding videos for select agents - and charging enough to justify the $12.68 (after 10 percent discount / paid annually) fee ($152.06 annually).

For example, imagine shooting 3-4 videos at $149, $249 or $299 per video. Seems like a great value-add and high-margin Add On.

If you have been reluctant to offer video, is this super-easy workflow for shooting/editing/publishing residential real estate video helpful to getting you started?

Happy New Year,

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Just watched the video here. Looks quite interesting, certainly a big step up from using the Zillow video app, and as far as I know, Zillow still allows videos produced outside of their app to load to the Video button on the platform.

What I'm most curious about (perhaps Momenzo can answer?) is whether you can shoot & assemble a video using this app and then export it multiple times. For example, shoot the video itself, then export it with (1) agent branding, rooms, sq ft, price, etc (2) a generic version with NO branding for the MLS, and (3) a version with the photographer's branding for their own promotion. Also, while saving the background video itself generically so that if the agent lowers the asking price you can make adjustments and output a revised version weeks later.

Dan, maybe you can get them to chime in on this?
Thanks!
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@Home3D I spent a couple hours on Friday playing with the app after activating a subscription. I can answer your first two questions. Yes, once you complete the tour, there are about a dozen templates that you can choose from to generate and download new versions of the tour. It's also possible to later edit the information about the property and generate/download new updated versions of the tour. On the property description page there are switches at the bottom to include/omit your logo and photo.

The question I can't answer at this point is if it's possible to change the branding. When I subscribed, the onboarding process requested me to send the regular profile information/graphics. The company set that up within a day and notified me that my account we ready to go.

I am working on a full report on this product for the Forum because I think it's a real timesaver for producing a decent quality video. I am digging in and exploring the various plusses and minuses.
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@Dataventurer - Thanks for digging in on this one.

So it sounds like the app does, or can, save the underlying video separate from the overlaid branding. Does it save it as shots or an assembled video? I think I found some comment that stills can be added as well into the sequence? If it saves the individual shots, then potentially you could return later and drop or add a shot, like if the owner or agent decides "let's not show the garage" for example. Flexibility is key. Also, let's try to find out not only what's possible but what the Momenzo team is aiming for. If this lacks certain of these capabilities but the team intends to add them, this looks very interesting.

And if the company "installs" your branding to be used or not (for unbranded versions) then there's no reason they couldn't "install" (in principle) multiple branding versions. This is critical for photographers, of course.

Seems like the app is aiming for agents, where a single-branding option is all that's needed, but what about photographers who create FOR agents? Branding will need to be new for many jobs! But I'd think the company should be able to design a system to file agents' photos and info to be called up by the photographer for each client group.

Maybe not there yet, but is Momenzo thinking of this?
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Originally Posted by @Home3D
Seems like the app is aiming for agents, where a single-branding option is all that's needed, but what about photographers who create FOR agents? Branding will need to be new for many jobs! But I'd think the company should be able to design a system to file agents' photos and info to be called up by the photographer for each client group.

Maybe not there yet, but is Momenzo thinking of this?


@Home3D

Yes. Momenzo designed the app for real estate agents. With a little extra effort, it works for real estate photographers.

I will continue to lobby Momenzo for:

1. self-uploading of branding (without Momenzo Support help)
2. support multiple agent profiles (for real estate photographers)

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@Home3D I like where your questions are heading!

I found that the individual clips taken with the app are saved (on Android) down a couple folder levels in the Android/Data/com.momenzo.momenzo/files/videos directory.

The app enables you to import an MP4 file while you are creating a tour. I just tried to create a tour and import one of those previously shot clips - it worked! This means you can reconstruct a tour from the video clips. I need more time to play with it to determine the possibilities. At this point that capability looks pretty promising.

I also tried three times to import an MP4 clip shot in FilmicPro and got an error message every time. I am in the middle of sending off an email to Momenzo with five questions (so far) and this item is on that list. The native Momenzo app shoots at 30fps and my FilmicPro clips were shot at 24fps, so that may be the problem. I will report back.

I am a real estate agent and an advanced amateur photographer, certified as a Zillow Certified Photographer. This app immediately caught my attention! Shooting a Zillow 3D Tour is fast and gets good traffic. The videos walkthroughs I produce for Zillow take about four times as long to produce and they get a fraction of the views (possibly because the videos are located at the very bottom of the photo carousel). If Momemzo can provide a decent slam/bam solution, I'm all in!
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One of the frustrations with Zillow is they keep changing things, often for the worse. The top image of a listing used to be where both 3DHome and Video assets could be activated for display. I suppose when they began pushing 3DHome they downgraded Videos, which is both stupid and frustrating. All media assets should be available right at the start of looking at a listing.

FYI - I've had email conversations with the Zillow team which indicate they have some promising changes in the works. For years I've been hounding them about making these virtual tour and video buttons more prominent, and especially for Zillow to embrace all 3D/360° virtual tour systems just as they interchangeably allow for their Video button to lauch EITHER a Zillow Video (shot on their app) or a professional video.

What I believe is that Zillow will do itself a BIG FAVOR if they enable their 3D/360° button to access ANY brand of 3D/360° virtual tour, from their own to Matterport, 3DVista, EyeSpy360, NodalView and on and on. It's not hard to do, Zillow just needs to make the decision.

Once Zillow does this, the virtual tour floodgates open, especially if they make the 3D/360° button prominent.

FYI, it's been implied to me that Zillow is even planning to add an icon in Map View to listings which include virtual tours. This would be huge. Redfin already adds a miniscule camera icon in map view if a listing has either (or both) a video or virtual tour.

If Zillow promotes virtual tours in all these ways, they'll attract more eyeballs as Buyers want these. Question is, is Zillow smart enough to understand this?
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What I believe is that Zillow will do itself a BIG FAVOR if they enable their 3D/360° button to access ANY brand of 3D/360° virtual tour, from their own to Matterport, 3DVista, EyeSpy360, NodalView and on and on. It's not hard to do, Zillow just needs to make the decision.

Once Zillow does this, the virtual tour floodgates open, especially if they make the 3D/360° button prominent.

FYI, it's been implied to me that Zillow is even planning to add an icon in Map View to listings which include virtual tours. This would be huge. Redfin already adds a miniscule camera icon in map view if a listing has either (or both) a video or virtual tour.

If Zillow promotes virtual tours in all these ways, they'll attract more eyeballs as Buyers want these. Question is, is Zillow smart enough to understand this?


Zillow has missed a BIG opportunity.

Perhaps houses.com will embrace 3D/360/Video:

CoStar Group Acquires Houses.com Domain Name

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Momenzo looks cool, and I know it's a mobile service but can I download the finished video on my Android and then upload it to Google drive or maybe to Zillow video walk around? Can it get on my desktop one way or another?

Why can't any of us just build a better Real Estate portal, and make showcasing the property images, Virtual Tours and video upfront like we all know it should be. What do we need an idx feed, what else guys!? I'm pretty confident there's enough smart people in our forum to make the next award winning Real Estate website so let's start thinking about that.
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I wrote to Momenzo and rec'd this back. It clarifies one thing, that Momenzo is (thus far) designed for agents, not photographers. As the company is in the EU, I'm not surprised. I was told that almost all users of NodalView, in Belgium, are agents. In Europe, agents commonly take their own photos, tours, video. They don't hire photographers that much. Everything's a bit simpler there.

This is not unlike the movie industry. In the U.S. every actor has a manager that guides their career and an agent that extracts money from producers. In Europe, actors and directors have one person that does everything for them. Actually, it's a lot nicer system IMHO, though I'd rather be a photographer here.

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Hi Kevin,

Thank you for your email.

You won't be able to get the shots recorded with Momenzo App into your library so if you want to use the same shots for different client's video, you will have to film out of Momenzo App and then import your shots in the App to create a listing video.

You must know that the App is basically made for Real Estate agents and we customize the design for each user so they can make branded listing videos easily. As a photographer, you won't be able to customize the design (logo, profile picture and details) for each of your clients from Momenzo App. If you need to use your videos with your own branding it will be fine but otherwise what we can do is to give you access to Momenzo App without a customized design and you will have to do the additional design work on your side, you will be able to use your videos for any of your clients in this way. Could you please let us know if it would meet your needs please?

Also, after creating a video, you will be able to edit the organization and property info for weeks if you don't delete the project. Regarding the media import, everything is automated and you won't be able to have a hand on the features.

Please let us know.

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Why can't any of us just build a better Real Estate portal, and make showcasing the property images, Virtual Tours and video upfront like we all know it should be. What do we need an idx feed, what else guys!? I'm pretty confident there's enough smart people in our forum to make the next award winning Real Estate website so let's start thinking about that.


Please let us know when you are done building this new platform

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I wrote to Momenzo and rec'd this back. It clarifies one thing, that Momenzo is (thus far) designed for agents, not photographers.


Momenzo Support replied to our wish list about DIY self onboarding with branding account setup and allowing multiple saved profiles (e.g. multiple real estate agents for real estate photographers).

1. We are working on the self onboarding feature. It's actually top priority for us but it's a complex subject as we want all users to be able to do this, not just photographers. You will be notified as soon as we've the first version of this feature (it could take several months)

2. You're perfectly right... We have a lot of inquiries from photographers but we would first need feature 1) to create a proper offer.


In the mean time - while there are some extra steps for real estate photographers to use Momenzo for creating video for multiple real estate agents, I could imagine the Momenzo real estate video creation workflow saves a TON of time both in recording video and post production (compared to how you are doing video now).

Please feel free to start a new discussion when you are ready to review your experience shooting real estate video with the Momenzo app.

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@GETMYVR Your question: "can I download the finished video on my Android and then upload it to Google drive or maybe to Zillow video walk around? Can it get on my desktop one way or another?"

I just tested this with a couple clips I shot with the Momenzo app on my phone. They are buried in the directory:

Android/Data/com.momenzo.momenzo/files/videos

I copied them to my desktop and pulled them into Cyberlink PowerDirector and was able to use them without issue to produce a video in PowerDirector.

Within the Momenzo app, you can Download the completed tour to your phone (I recall that the video is downloaded into the same folder as the clips). So to answer your questions shortly - Yes!

@Home3D I think the answer you received is incorrect: "You won't be able to get the shots recorded with Momenzo App into your library so if you want to use the same shots for different client's video, you will have to film out of Momenzo App and then import your shots in the App to create a listing video."

I found that I was able to locate the clips in the folder I noted above and import them into a new video tour with the Import function.

In fact, when you select Import, the app displays a thumbnail of the folders on your phone with videos in them, one being the Momenzo folder. By tapping that thumbnail, you can see all the clips in that folder.

One hindrance here, the Momenzo video folder displays thumbnails with ONLY the duration of the clip; there is no way to identify date, file name, size, etc. That limitation could be challenging if you don't clean out that folder so you see only the clips you are interested in working with.

As I am exploring the Momenzo app there comes a point when it makes more sense to "go to guns" and pull the clips out of the Momenzo folder and import them into a different editor.

But, if you can work within the Momenzo app, it enables production of a pretty slick video without needing to add titles, logos, and other graphics.

The other option suggested by the reply you received is to shoot with a different camera app (Open Camera, Manual Camera, the native camera app on your phone, etc.) and import the clips into Momenzo.

I tried to import from FilmicPro and was not successful, checking with Momenzo on that. That process might be simpler (exploring that myself since I have been using FilmicPro on a DJI gimbal so I can start and stop the video recording from the gimbal controls instead of touching the phone's screen) and you could have more control over the access to the clips.

I will have more to opine on this in my upcoming review.
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I saw this app when Dan introduced it a few days ago and was immediately interested in checking it out.

I have found from my limited experience shooting Zillow 3D Home Tours with my Ricoh SC2 and then creating a walk-through video with my phone on a gimbal, that the 3D tours get far more views than the videos but the videos take about four times as long to produce. If the Momenzo app could cut down the video production time and provide an acceptable quality tour, then we have a winner!

I was interested in a couple things when evaluating this for my use:
• How quickly could I become proficient using the app?
• What is the quality of the template designs provided by the app, since customization is not enabled?
• I shoot real estate tours for other agents in my office. How laborious will it be to produce branded tours for multiple agents?
• Is the quality of the app’s native camera good enough to produce an acceptable video (exposure, white balance, etc.)?

Dan was interested in my review of the product. I was glad to be offered the opportunity to share my explorations. I spent several hours experimenting, creating sample clips with the various templates, and compiling screen shots of the templates so I could really understand what kind of options and possibilities are provided by Momenzo. I corresponded in three emails to the support department. Now I think I have a pretty good grasp on the product.

Summary Before the Details:
This app can produce a very acceptable video tour with additional graphics (logo, headshot, comments, property description, agent contact information). The process to shoot, compile, and produce a tour video is simple and straightforward, easy to learn within a few minutes, even by a newbie. The resulting video is definitely a product produced in far less time than it would take using a non-linear video editing desktop app. The way that the app stitches the intro, clips with fades, and outro together with background music cuts the product time from hours literally to minutes.

Diving into the Details
Since the available template designs determine what the final product looks like, I decided to focus my initial efforts on creating a short sample video and generate versions using the templates that I’d likely be using.

The Momenzo app has a total of 23 templates to speed the creation of a tour from your 360 photos. Displayed here are screen shots of the twelve that I picked as being most probably of interest to real estate agents.

These are the template I did not explore:
For Rent 3.1
For Rent 3.2
For Rent 3.3
Sold
Sold 2
Sold 3
Price Reduced
Sale Pending
Under Contract
Under Offer
Rented
On Show
Trulia

The following templates are displayed below with a screen capture of the main tour screen. Some of the templates include auto-generated clips for an Intro (branded and unbranded), and an Outro, noted with each photo. Note: the co-founder noted that your profile could be set up without including some of the personal information that is displayed on the templates: logo, photo, license number, etc.

• Branded Intro (Unbranded Intro looks similar without the brokerage logo)
• Motion – fly-in motion is used for the descriptions (you enter the words). There is a short fade between each video clip in the tour.
• Outro (some of the templates display the Outro screen longer)

The URL after each entry is to a 22-second example using the same clips with each template.

No Logo - Unbranded Intro, no Outro https://vimeo.com/502398148




Walkthrough 1.1 - Branded Intro, no fly-in descriptions, Outro https://vimeo.com/502421658




Walkthrough 1.2 - Branded Intro, with fly-in descriptions, Outro https://vimeo.com/502400258



Walkthrough 1.3 - Branded Intro, with fly-in descriptions, Outro https://vimeo.com/502421398



Walkthrough 1.4 - Branded Intro, with fly-in descriptions, Outro https://vimeo.com/502421398




Original 2.1 - Branded Intro, with fly-in descriptions, Outro https://vimeo.com/502398940




Original 2.2 - Branded Intro, with fly-in descriptions, Outro https://vimeo.com/502397473




Original 2.3 - Branded Intro, with fly-in descriptions, Outro https://vimeo.com/502399400




Just Listed – No Intro, no descriptions, Outro https://vimeo.com/502397809




Open House - No Intro, no descriptions, Outro https://vimeo.com/502398565




Zillow - Unbranded Intro, with fly-in descriptions, Outro https://vimeo.com/502400998




Realtor.com - Branded Intro, with fly-in descriptions, Outro https://vimeo.com/502399886




Review of Application Functionality:

Startup phase
- Good communication upon sign-up – video
- Welcome email with directions
- Excellent collection of tutorial videos, sample narrated video

Shooting - Guided
- Very good guidance: example videos before each different shot with suggestions for direction
Clearly identified shot options:
- Introduction shot of 5 seconds
- Living Room with example, 6 seconds
- Kitchen, 5 seconds
- Bedroom, 5 seconds
- Bathroom, 4 seconds

Additional options in Guided Mode:
- Standard minimum 4 seconds, maximum 60 by shooting or importing
- Commented – facecam shot, minimum 4 seconds, maximum 60 by shooting or importing
- Voice Over – narrated shot with back camera
- Speed Up – Set for 11 seconds, play faster
- Mini-Lapse – Set for 41 seconds, plays very fast
- Timed shots – 1, 2, 3, 4 seconds

When shooting in Guided Mode, the timer is displayed on the screen, you can choose to display a 3-second countdown timer to start recording

Shooting – Guided
This mode enables the option to NOT record an Intro shot that will automatically be laid over with the logo and short property description as in the Guided Mode. This is helpful when you plan to import your own Intro photo or video clip (when creating tours for multiple agents).
The other available shots are the same as in the Guided Mode. What is NOT displayed in this mode is the example shot and suggestion screens for how to scan during the shot.

Comments:
The Guided Mode is so easy to use that you could hand the phone to a newbie and instruct them to hit the yellow Start Project button and follow the on-screen directions.

Videographers on this forum would use the Pro version tour to freely choose the sequence of the rooms, length of shots, etc.

After testing out the Guided Tour mode, then shooting my home several times using the Pro Tour mode, I found it was a smooth process to use mainly the Standard Mode clips and shoot each room. There are enough other shot options to compile a decent tour!

Video Quality
Options for recording are 1080p or 720p at 30fps. I was concerned about the auto exposure and white balance quality of the Momenzo camera app. You can see from the sample video that the results are acceptable. I shot with a new Samsung S20 FE in super-wide angle mode. If you want to have more control of the camera function, Momenzo suggested shooting with a different camera app (native, Manual Camera, Open Camera, etc.) and then importing the clips. The trade-off here is that the Momenzo camera app enables cropping of the video at the time you capture the clip. It’s easy to slide the window to trim the beginning or end of the clip. When you import a video clip there is no functionality in Momenzo to edit a video (a bit more about this kind of work-around tactics later…) I did a couple test shots with the other camera apps but ran out of daylight to be able to accurately compare. That's one action item to explore a bit more. If the difference is not noticeable to the “normal” viewer, I will stay with the Momenzo camera.

Note: My regular phone video app is FilmicPro because I shoot on a DJI 3 gimbal and the app connects to the Record button on the gimbal for start/stop filming. But… I could not get a FilmicPro video clip to import into the Momenzo app. I brought this to the attention of the Support team and they took notice of my report. I plan to play a bit more with it by trying some different codecs before I fall back on one of the other camera apps or the Momenzo app. Using the gimbal with FilmicPro is great for longer clips to smooth things out. But the Momenzo app seems to be geared to the style of filming where shot clips of less than 5 seconds are used. In that case, it’s pretty easy to get a good, smooth shot by standing in one place and panning the camera, in which case you are holding the camera with two hands and can smoothly touch the Stop record button with your thumb. When shooting on the gimbal, the action of touching the screen to stop recording can cause a jiggle on the screen that must then be trimmed back a second or so. That’s an additional step that takes but a few seconds to complete, but it is again one of those tradeoffs that warrants some thought and testing.

Editing
After the shooting is completed, you can edit the shots (move them backward or forward in the sequence) and enter the fly-in comments.

The Editing step is where there are some trade-offs to consider. Staying in the Momenzo app, the access to the video clip is limited to trimming it or re-recording it. Once you hit Done after shooting a scene, the clip cannot be pulled back up to do any trimming. So any trimming like that must be done in the course of collecting your shots for the tour. There is the possibility of viewing the clip on the screen easily before you hit Done. For the kind of short clips we are shooting for these short tours, it is probably easier to simply re-shoot the scene and skip the in-process trimming.

Editing…Into the weeds…
There were some questions above in this stream about reusing clips in a subsequent tour. That is possible at a couple levels. Using the Import Clip function, the various video folders on your phone (the ones that show up using the Gallery app) are accessible. Limitations: only the thumbnail and clip duration show in that view; no other details are accessible. But…I found that all the clips are stored in this folder on your phone: /Android/Data/com.momenzo.momenzo/files/videos
You can access the video clip files there, pull them into your desktop, use a desktop video editor to doctor them, save them back to that folder on your phone and import the clips into a Momenzo tour. Laborious, but possible if the need arises.

How to create tours for multiple profiles – work-around
This is also the route if you want to create a pre-recorded introductory clip for an agent. The Momenzo onboarding process creates one profile with one logo and photo and contact info. The co-founder said they were working on their backend system to be able to accommodate multi-profile requirements by videographers. In the meantime, I plan to create a simple Outro template like the one Momenzo provides. and simply import it into the app. What is not possible at this point is having a different agent’s photo displayed on each shot of the tour (this is possible in some of the templates). Personally, I don’t think it’s helpful to have my mug showing in the corner of the screen taking up space when viewers are interested in seeing the tour video. You can easily add a headshot in the Outro.

Background Music
Finding good background music is a time-consuming task! The Momenzo app provides a surprising array of music styles to choose from. I listened to a few of them and felt there were at least a couple that were acceptable. One nice thing I noticed: if you narrate a video clip, the app will automatically lower the background music volume during the narration. That’s a nice touch!

Here are the things that I found to be less than desirable:

Onboarding Process
At this point in the app's development, you must wait to get your profile set up after sending in your contact info, photo, logo, etc. That process took a day.
The onboarding instructions didn’t specify minimum specs for logo size, I was asked to submit a larger one. That slowed the onboarding process an additional day.

Editing
Can’t import video from FilmicPro

Predetermined shot lengths are too short – need something longer than 5 seconds. You can shoot longer in Standard mode, but the recording doesn't automatically end like it does with the timed shots (no need to hit the Stop button on the screen).

Transition between clips could be a smidge longer. It’s a personal preference of mine. The co-founder responded that they wanted a dynamic feel to the tours and the shorter fades help create that dynamic.

There is no access to a trial version on the company website. After I inquired, I was provided a link to a trial on the website. That seemed strange to me that the web page with the link to the Trial wasn’t easily available for use.

Final Summary
This app is definitely worth the license fee because it produces the type of "run and gun" video walk-throughs that fit a medium quality niche. It definitely fits as a complementary offering to the Zillow 3D Home Tour product. I think a "regular" video takes far more time to produce, hence costs more to the agent, hence they don't choose to include videos as often. Offering Momenzo tours at a lower price point would likely capture more overall video business revenue.
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WOW! WOW! WOW!

Thank you for taking the time to do this detailed analysis. What a gift that you have given the WGAN Community with your in-depth review of the Momenzo app! Much, much appreciated!

From hours to minutes to create a real estate video. That's crazy-exciting!

In your summary (above), you write:

The process to shoot, compile, and produce a tour video is simple and straightforward, easy to learn within a few minutes, even by a newbie. The resulting video is definitely a product produced in far less time than it would take using a non-linear video editing desktop app. The way that the app stitches the intro, clips with fades, and outro together with background music cuts the product time from hours literally to minutes.

For videographers interested in non-Guide (manual mode), how long does it take to be as proficient with the Momenzo app as you?

Since the present generation of the Momenzo app was designed specifically for one real estate agent with one profile (logo, headshot, comments, property description, agent contact information), what was your workaround to be able to offer real estate videos to all the agents in your brokerage (and is that okay or should real estate photographers wait until multiple real estate agent profiles are supported before getting the Momenzo app?)

I your 'Hitchcock Moment' - your cameo - in the bathroom mirror (at the end).

Best,

Dan

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@DanSmigrod Dan, I'm pleased to share my research! The process helped me to evaluate the Momenzo app for myself in a methodical manner. And I think it's a keeper!

To answer your questions from above:
..."how long does it take to be as proficient with the Momenzo app as you?"

Answer: Proficiency with an app requires assessing what options are available, then deciding which ones are relevant to your work. The Momenzo app has a couple areas to assess:
- Onboarding - after subscribing, I immediately received a Welcome email with instructions to send photo, logo, etc. so the Support team could create my profile (they are working on enabling user control of that process). Then I watched the several training videos and example videos (a regular tour and a narrated tour). That entire process to get the material sent and watch the videos took about an hour total, a one-time requirement.
- Templates - there are 23 templates. I paired the list down to 12 to evaluate. The way I did that was to shoot a short 22-second, 4-shot video, then produce it using the various templates and download it so I could take a close look at the graphics and components (whether an Intro, Outro, comments were included, etc.) Shooting the video took about 8 minutes, each template took about five minutes to produce (that work is done on the Momenzo servers) and download. One reason I posted the screen capture photos and links to access each sample video was to save other interested members time in this step. All those videos are also posted on a Show and Tour page that I didn't include in my initial review: clickable text Frankly, I haven't completed my evaluation of the various templates because some of the text and graphics can be removed from display by removing elements of my profile: photo, logo, agent name, MLS number, etc. I think some of the added graphics elements take up too much screen space so I have a bit more scrutinizing to do. For someone here on the Forum who is jumping in to begin using the app, I estimate using my examples posted here to evaluate the template options, that could be done in half an hour.
- Video Options - the app offers a small set of shot options that appear on the phone screen when you prepare to shoot a room. I listed them above Shooting - Guided I just noticed an error. The second section above, Shooting - Guided, should be "Shooting Pro". Too late to change that... The options provided in the camera app are easy to understand, so a quick learning curve here. Try each shot option once and you've got the idea - total time to shoot each option, produce, download takes about 12 minutes.
- Adding Comments - after hitting Done to complete a set of tour clips, an option to Edit/Add Comments appears. Straightforward: grab the clip and move it up or down in the sequence, click on the comment line under each clip and enter a short description or comment.

Summary answer to your question about time required to master - Initially playing with this app shooting a short sequence of clips and producing a couple of sample tours using different templates, that can be done in less than an hour.

Second Question about customizing for different agents
There are three parts of the Momenzo tours where customization is possible: Intro, tour clips, Outro.

First, the Tour Clips: Personally, I plan to remove profile information that displays during the tour clips by asking Momenzo support to delete those fields from my profile. I think that information is distracting and unnecessary when a potential buyer is seeking to see a walk-through of a property.

Intro - I just did a bit more exploration here. One of the shot options is Logo. The app automatically grabs the brokerage logo and adds it to the description text that gets overlaid on the logo clip. I included that intro clip in my sample video but the various templates do not automatically add an Intro, which is called the Logo shot when you are choosing which shot to take. The Logo shot option has a switch to include or omit the logo - but it still can display the project title and location of the property. If an agent is a client who wants to show his face at the beginning, have them shoot a short clip on their mobile phone, send it to you and import it as the first clip in the tour.

Outro - the Outro screen is automatically added to most of the templates and includes all the specific profile information that I plan to delete (phone, website, email address, photo, license number). The solution for customization here is to omit all these fields from your profile so they don't display. I have not sought to have my profile wiped yet so I can't tell you how that last screen will display.

A the simple solution to branding for multiple agents: Use the No Logo template. This template enables the fly-in comments for each clip, no other details display on the screen. You can add the Logo shot with the property location and title easy, no logo will display. (See the example No Logo tour at the top of my review post for an example of an Intro without a logo.) For the Outro, import a JPG with the agent's information as the last clip. Get the agent's photo, logo, contact info, create a page in PowerPoint, save it as a JPG and include that page in your gallery for importing. This will take some time to set up for each agent - once. (Maybe 20 minutes at most?) Then you have it in inventory to import for their listings. This can provide a very usable video product that's customized with the same quick production capability as the other templates.

Think about the trade-offs here. Initial start-up with the app will take a couple hours at the most and about 30 minutes total to create a customized Outro page for each agent. You'll have the potential to shoot a whole-house video in about 15-20 minutes, then add the comments for each clip and create the tour in another 15 minutes - this step is where the BIG TIME SAVING is! If an agent really wants to have their photo, phone and logo displayed on every page, create a Momenzo account with their profile information for them and charge them $19 per month for the subscription!
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Thank you again for your detailed reply about what to expect about the learning curve for getting started with the Momenzo app (iOS, Android) for shooting residential real estate.

Enjoy your Sunday.

Dan
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Originally Posted by @Dataventurer
Back with a bit more update on a couple things...

importing FilmicPro Clips
The co-founder of Momenzo suggested checking the CODEC options in FilmicPro to see if that was the issue causing errors when importing clips shot with that Android app. I created shot clips with all the variations - and they all imported cleanly! So it looks like I can use FilmicPro clips to import into the Pro version tours using the Standard shot selection. Nice!

Customized Branding
I also tested the idea of adding a Powerpoint JPG with agent information. First thing I discovered was that Momenzo enables importing videos only. I had made a screen capture of the Outro screen generated by the app, then tried to import it. Since the import function wouldn't accept a JPG file, I dropped the file into PowerDirector (or any video editor), created a 6-second video at 1080p, and was then able to import that video clip into the Momenzo app to add as an Outro. That presents the process to add a customized Outro screen for multiple agent clients. For an Intro, I took one of the pro photos from a previous property, pulled it into Powerpoint, added my photo, company logo, address and listing price, saved it as a JPG, ran it through PowerDirector to create a 5-second video clip and imported it into Momenzo. Here is an example with the Intro, Outro and one room to show the fly-in comment using the No Logo template.

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So it looks like I can use FilmicPro clips to import into the Pro version tours using the Standard shot selection. Nice!


@Dataventurer

Thanks for the update on FilmicPro meets MomenzoQuote:
Originally Posted by Dataventurer
Since the import function wouldn't accept a JPG file
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I could imagine that others in the WGAN Community will find that super-helpful to know.

Quote:
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Since the import function wouldn't accept a JPG file


The ability to import a JPG file seems like a great feature request (rather than all those extra workaround steps.

Best,

Dan
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Originally Posted by Dataventurer
The Momenzo app has a total of 23 templates to speed the creation of a tour from your 360 photos.


Is it a mistake about 360 photos or you can actually import 360 photos inside and use them in a video with pan/tilt movements?
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@Wingman You caught an error in my report! My bad! Should have read "video clips", not 360 photos. Darn, I proof-read that report several times and didn't catch that. I wrote earlier in the report that photos could NOT be imported into a Momenzo tour. I don't know how to correct that mistake other than through this post. Apologies!
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